Kind of Cynical Data Guy #2

Bringing that backup Fitzmagic to The Data Stack Show

224: Bridging Gaps: DevRel, Marketing Synergies, and the Future of Data with Pedram Navid of Dagster Labs

With more schedule conflicts The Data Stack show needed to call in their back QB, The Cynical Data Guy. Like the best backup QB of all time, I brought the ✨Fitzmagic✨!

John Wessel

and I welcomed Pedram Navid, Chief Dashboard Officer at Dagster Labs, to the show. Pedram oversees developer relations (DevRel), and marketing at Dagster.

We talk about how he uses marketing a distribution multiplier for DevRel and his journey from data science to data engineer to consultant to Dagster.

Highlights from this week’s conversation include:

• Pedram’s Background and Journey in Data (0:47)

• Joining Dagster Labs (1:41)

• Synergies Between Teams (2:56)

• Developer Marketing Preferences (6:06)

• Bridging Technical Gaps (9:54)

• Understanding Data Orchestration (11:05)

• Dagster's Unique Features (16:07)

• The Future of Orchestration (18:09)

• Freeing Up Team Resources (20:30)

• Market Readiness of the Modern Data Stack (22:20)

• Career Journey into DevRel and Marketing (26:09)

• Understanding Technical Audiences (29:33)

• Building Trust Through Open Source (31:36)

• Understanding Vendor Lock-In (34:40)

• AI and Data Orchestration (36:11)

• Modern Data Stack Evolution (39:09)

• The Cost of AI Services (41:58)

• Differentiation Through Integration (44:13)

• Language and Frameworks in Orchestration (49:45)

• Future of Orchestration and Closing Thoughts (51:54)